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One of the features of Sakai that our team was looking for in a new LMS is a blogging tool. I admit some significant improvements in usability are possible in this tool. However, it does give us the option of blogging within the system. Blog Conversations. MORE
The question is usually ‘what can I do to ensure that the CEO or Director views L&D as a strategic business tool and not another also-ran support function’. Yet there is an absolute wealth of tools to help L&D people raise their game by using technology. MORE
Top 100 Tools for Learning poll. All of mine fall in the latter category, because my performance support tools are productivity tools! So here’re my votes, FWIW: Google Search is, of course, still my top tool. Skype is a tool I use for communicating with folks to get things done, but also to have conversations (e.g. Word is my go-to writing tool, and while I use Pages at times too (e.g. Keynote is my presentation creating tool. MORE
They see it as a platform, not a mere blogging tool. Tags: Blogging Community Conference hosts should take a lesson or two from Matt Mullenweg. Today’s Wordcamp San Francisco was simply great. Great line-up of speakers. Glorious weather. MORE
This is the 5th year I have been building a Top 100 Tools for Learning list (based on the Top 10 Tools contributions of learning professionals worldwide), so I thought it would be interesting to compare my choices in the first year I ran the activity in 2007, with my choices today. MORE
Jane Hart asked me to come up with a list of my top ten tools. I'm going to include IE7 under this heading, which is probably the tool I use the most after Outlook – the improvements such as tabbed browsing mean that it has caught up with Firefox (sounds like some form of heresy). Blogger: I didn't choose my blogging tool, I just took the easy option and used the one that Google provided. Captivate: This is the other tool I use, for software screen captures. MORE
Jane Hart has been widely and wisely known for her top 100 Tools for Learning (you too can register your vote ). As a public service announcement, I list my top 10 tools for learning as well: Google search: I regularly look up things I hear of and don’t know. WordPress: my blogging tool, that provides regular reflection opportunities for me in generating them, and from the feedback others provide via comments. MORE
Tools provide by the enterprise that will sometimes reach outside the enterprise to give public visibility. The enterprise provides tools to employees that they can use as part of the PWLE. I could understand an argument that it would be preferable for individuals to be able to use the same tools outside the corporation for personal interests - but I don't see his argument that it is no longer a PLE or PWLE. In PLEs are power tools Tom tells us. MORE
tools, including a brief description of their business value. I appreciate that Jay is able to succinctly articulate their business value, especially because many people still don’t take these tools seriously. Jay Cross cracks me up (in a good way). When he’s not sharing gorgeous travel photos (including pictures of some of the most unique food you’ll ever see), he comes up with gems related to informal learning and educational technology. MORE
For my own part in the day I brought along the work that I had been conducting on eLearning, much publicised on this blog, but I did take the opportunity to promote Wimba Create, which I think went down very positively. MORE
If I were to ask you what are the sharpest tools in your box, what would you say? Here are my 8 essential tools: 1) Twitter, because as I recently said in a YouTube video , it is immediate, social and personal. 4) Blogger, my blogging tool which hosts this blog and several more I run. MORE
June’s BQ is… “what tools should we learn?&#. When I think about the tools, I always come back to the fact that they are all just typing, so that is the critical thing to learn (but even that will be obsolete someday). MORE
There’s value in what PostRank does, but it wasn’t quite the right tool for this. Posted in Blogging, Tools. Tags: Blogging Tools eLearning Learning Feed Rinse PostRank rss Tony Karrer Partly due to a request from Tony Karrer for eLearning Learning and partly because others have asked in the past, I did a little research on how to filter an RSS feed so I can provide a feed without the daily bookmarks posts. MORE
Janet Clarey wrote an interesting blog post in response to the relatively recent edupunk meme which is basically an ideology that DIY learning and repurposing content is the way to go (and somewhat the ONLY way to go). type tools in Learning Management Systems against the philosophy that corporate and commercial is evil of the edupunkers. Do you show them the internal blogging tool only? MORE
Jane Hart and I collaborated on a new report, 100+ Free E-Learning Tools for Employee Training and Personal Learning , and have just now released it. She is also the author of Jane’s E-Learning Pick of the Day , a blog where she posts a daily item of e-learning interest. For this report, Jane handpicked tools just for employee training and personal learning from her extensive repository. After settling on the right tools, they were categorized. Blogging Tools. MORE
While there, I engaged in a practice I had never before used known as a backchannel, via the well known micro blogging tool Twitter. It is different from a traditional blog in that it is exactly what the title infers – micro. There are a lot of tools that can be used for a backchannel, but one of the most popular is Twitter. Other online tools are available in the marketplace; however, I will refer to using a backchannel in Twitter throughout this post. MORE
Part of my reservation is that it is yet another social networking tool and a blogging tool. I just saw a post by Mark Oehlert - The Brandon Hall Network - nicely done who said: The functionality set looks good. The UI is pretty good - I find the initial color set to be a bit jarring but they do make the CSS available to you which will allow folks to really customize their profile page. So congrats on a nicely designed, functional network! MORE
Looking for some new ideas for tools to support your work? Here are the links to the pages in my Directory of Learning & Performance Tools , which lists over 1,000 tools in 4 main categories as shown below. Want to add or amend a tool’s details? What are your favourite tools for learning? Voting is now open in this year’s Top Tools for Learning survey. INSTRUCTIONAL TOOLS. E-Learning Authoring Tools. CONTENT TOOLS. MORE
This is in reference the immense and rapidly expanding technology tools. It is tough to stay on top of all the emerging tools. For me it is a blog community and following many experts on Twitter. Not only am I often made aware of new tools, but also get opinions, tips, and examples of their use. You can never keep up with it all, but access to many experts who are also finding and sharing the lastest tech tools make it much less daunting. MORE
Once I was a whiz with an excellent drawing tool; now I am a scribbler on six different drawing tools. It pleases me to think of all of the passing information, entertainment, notifications, tweets, blogs, magazines, newspapers, and so on as a never-ending stream. Links take me to my blogs, tools, events, clocks, clubs, and communities. The Search section has a few specialty tools. Feeling lost? MORE
Tuesday, March 25, 2008 Jott This Blog I havent had so much time lately to blog, as this project Im working on has been quite grueling. I find my best time for thinking up excellent blog entries is late at night when Im lying in bed. Practice safe blogging while driving! MORE
Blogger - My blogging tool of choice. Microsoft PowerPoint: Create storyboards. Tried many; this still works the best for SME reviews Proof HQ: Rocks for storyboard review and edits. Easy for team collaboration. BaseCamp HQ: Project management - ties back to Proof HQ. Dim-Dim - For web meetings and webinars. Adobe elearning Suite - The whole ball of wax for course development - plus extra add-ons like CourseBuilder. Captivate for simulations. MORE
We decided to set up an ad-hoc social learning environment mostly using freely available tools. We decided to outline our curriculum in a skeletal form using a blog, and then set social interactions in the curriculum context. Blog is the watering hole A learning blog is so much a happening place! The blog has a personal touch, it is easy to follow, its updates are delivered to participant's RSS reader instantaneously. We used Blogger, the Google blogging tool. MORE
I subscribe to and receive in my email Doug Belshaw's blog – [link] – where he describes work he's doing for his Ed.D. I blog on Posterous – [link] – because it's the easiest blog tool I've found, and I subscribe to a number of people whom I find helpful there. I have set it up so I receive a collection of their blog posts in my email too. MORE
While implicitly it could support tracking a group’s progress, separate thoughts as recorded through blogs and tweets aren’t a natural feature. Yes, there’s integration with wikis and blogging tools, but it’s not quite the same. They can do for external thought leaders by reading their blog and following their tweets. I’ve riffed before about virtual mentorship , and it resonated again today. MORE
Janet Clarey wrote an interesting blog post in response to the relatively recent edupunk meme which is basically an ideology that DIY learning and repurposing content is the way to go (and somewhat the ONLY way to go). type tools in Learning Management Systems against the philosophy that corporate and commercial is evil of the edupunkers. Do you show them the internal blogging tool only? MORE
Here are five ways we can give our knowledge to generations of learners we will never meet: 1) Blogging. Blogs such as the one you are now reading have been set up to share knowledge, and also to encourage discussion. Tools to look out for: YouTube , Vimeo , SchoolTube , Daily Motion. MORE
In a recent blog post, I gave seven reasons why teachers should blog. I followed that post up with another highlighting some of the reasons teachers don't blog. Blogging for me has many clear benefits for professionals. Evernote is a great tool for that purpose. MORE
I also routinely use it to obtain Creative Commons licenced graphics for use on this blog and in my powerpoint slides. So my Top 4 favourites that are NOT on this Top 100 list are: Blogger : I've been writing this blog, eLearning Acupuncture , using Blogger since 2004. MORE
Over on LCB , The Big Question for October has been posted: Should All Learning Professionals be Blogging? Corporate eLearning Professionals are Blogging More More corporate eLearning professionals are taking up blogging. A couple recent interesting blogs as examples are: In the Middle of the Curve - Good example post that I cite later: Fear of Blogging. And as you gain experience with blogs, you can start to gain experience with other Personal Learning Tools. MORE
Existing Adoption At the very start I asked the audience for examples of where they were currently using these tools as part of learning solutions. There were about 7 examples mentioned including Intuit using a Wiki-like system for customers to ask questions/get advice around taxes, using a group blog with students prior to a formal learning event, the US Army's use of collaboration tools to share best practices in Iraq, and several others. Tools? MORE
As readers of this blog will know, I released the Top 100 Tools for Learning 2014 list on Monday 22 September – a list that I compiled from the votes of over 1,000 learning professionals worldwide. MORE
The final list of top 100 tools for learning for 2010 is now out on Jane Hart’s website. I understand this list is more inclined towards tools that learning professionals use for their own learning as opposed to those used for creating learning programs or training sessions. MORE
Principles for assessing online discussions and other conversations (blogs, chat, etc.) Tool for liveblogging that is actually live–it works like typing an instant message. tags: web2.0 , blog , tools. The Bamboo Project Blog: Using Del.icio.us ZaidLearn: University Learning = OCW + OER = FREE! Huge directory of links to free educational resources–open courseware, open educational resources, and general resources. Mostly higher ed. MORE
” Telus does keep detailed track of its social learning participation — in 2011, for instance, 16,600 of its employees joined its Buzz micro-blogging tool. In 2009, Telus’ wikis and blogs garnered 23,000 pageviews from employees; in 2011, that number grew to 308,676. Make sure that a certain social learning tool has been in place for at least six months, maybe even a year, before measurement. MORE
Jane Hart is running her annual Top 100 Tools for Learning poll (you can vote too), and here’s my contribution for this year. These are my personal learning tools, and are ordered according to Harold Jarche’s Seek-Sense-Share models, as ways to find answers, to process them, and to share for feedback: Google Search is my go-to tool when I come across something I haven’t heard of. Slack is another tool I use with some groups to stay in touch. MORE
This week is about blogging. I just think its time to take a look at blogging again since I, and others from what I hear, seem to be neglecting blogs, feed readers, etc, in favor of microblogging. Let's start with the basics: What is blogging? But that's not blogging. MORE
Many of us techies have been using RSS for years, and you may even run your own blog. Blogs can also be a fantastic way to record your progress on projects, take notes, share findings, etc. What are some of the obstacles we face in using blogs and RSS readers at our organizations? First, blogs and RSS don’t get much respect in the enterprise. Second, users are either hesitant or scared to use new tools like an RSS reader. Also see: Blogs in Plain English. MORE
A surprisingly number of vendors who offer some form of social learning, whether it is the minimum – a FB like page, micro-blog, even some form of app sharing or collaborative tool, do not have any social media on their site. Something to think about, when you try to explain to your potential customers why your micro blogging tool is wonderful, but your own company doesn’t even use it or some other micro-blog site. We live in a global marketplace. MORE
Blog Tool Related Topics Experiencing eLearning
AUGUST 17, 2009
There’s value in what PostRank does, but it wasn’t quite the right tool for this. Posted in Blogging, Tools. Tags: Blogging Tools eLearning Learning Feed Rinse PostRank rss Tony Karrer Partly due to a request from Tony Karrer for eLearning Learning and partly because others have asked in the past, I did a little research on how to filter an RSS feed so I can provide a feed without the daily bookmarks posts.
Jane Hart
SEPTEMBER 29, 2014
As readers of this blog will know, I released the Top 100 Tools for Learning 2014 list on Monday 22 September – a list that I compiled from the votes of over 1,000 learning professionals worldwide.
eLearning Weekly
AUGUST 20, 2008
tools, including a brief description of their business value. I appreciate that Jay is able to succinctly articulate their business value, especially because many people still don’t take these tools seriously. Jay Cross cracks me up (in a good way). When he’s not sharing gorgeous travel photos (including pictures of some of the most unique food you’ll ever see), he comes up with gems related to informal learning and educational technology.
Jane Hart
JUNE 5, 2016
Looking for some new ideas for tools to support your work? Here are the links to the pages in my Directory of Learning & Performance Tools , which lists over 1,000 tools in 4 main categories as shown below. Want to add or amend a tool’s details? What are your favourite tools for learning? Voting is now open in this year’s Top Tools for Learning survey. INSTRUCTIONAL TOOLS. E-Learning Authoring Tools. CONTENT TOOLS.
Experiencing eLearning
FEBRUARY 1, 2009
One of the features of Sakai that our team was looking for in a new LMS is a blogging tool. I admit some significant improvements in usability are possible in this tool. However, it does give us the option of blogging within the system. Blog Conversations.
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Clark Quinn
JULY 7, 2015
Jane Hart has been widely and wisely known for her top 100 Tools for Learning (you too can register your vote ). As a public service announcement, I list my top 10 tools for learning as well: Google search: I regularly look up things I hear of and don’t know. WordPress: my blogging tool, that provides regular reflection opportunities for me in generating them, and from the feedback others provide via comments.
Spark Your Interest
JUNE 3, 2010
June’s BQ is… “what tools should we learn?&#. When I think about the tools, I always come back to the fact that they are all just typing, so that is the critical thing to learn (but even that will be obsolete someday).
Jane Hart
SEPTEMBER 5, 2011
This is the 5th year I have been building a Top 100 Tools for Learning list (based on the Top 10 Tools contributions of learning professionals worldwide), so I thought it would be interesting to compare my choices in the first year I ran the activity in 2007, with my choices today.
Clark Quinn
APRIL 12, 2016
Top 100 Tools for Learning poll. All of mine fall in the latter category, because my performance support tools are productivity tools! So here’re my votes, FWIW: Google Search is, of course, still my top tool. Skype is a tool I use for communicating with folks to get things done, but also to have conversations (e.g. Word is my go-to writing tool, and while I use Pages at times too (e.g. Keynote is my presentation creating tool.
Clark Quinn
APRIL 19, 2017
Jane Hart is running her annual Top 100 Tools for Learning poll (you can vote too), and here’s my contribution for this year. These are my personal learning tools, and are ordered according to Harold Jarche’s Seek-Sense-Share models, as ways to find answers, to process them, and to share for feedback: Google Search is my go-to tool when I come across something I haven’t heard of. Slack is another tool I use with some groups to stay in touch.
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Take an e-Learning Break
SEPTEMBER 19, 2009
Blogger - My blogging tool of choice. Microsoft PowerPoint: Create storyboards. Tried many; this still works the best for SME reviews Proof HQ: Rocks for storyboard review and edits. Easy for team collaboration. BaseCamp HQ: Project management - ties back to Proof HQ. Dim-Dim - For web meetings and webinars. Adobe elearning Suite - The whole ball of wax for course development - plus extra add-ons like CourseBuilder. Captivate for simulations.
Moodle Journal
MARCH 22, 2012
For my own part in the day I brought along the work that I had been conducting on eLearning, much publicised on this blog, but I did take the opportunity to promote Wimba Create, which I think went down very positively.
Tony Karrer
OCTOBER 25, 2006
Part of my reservation is that it is yet another social networking tool and a blogging tool. I just saw a post by Mark Oehlert - The Brandon Hall Network - nicely done who said: The functionality set looks good. The UI is pretty good - I find the initial color set to be a bit jarring but they do make the CSS available to you which will allow folks to really customize their profile page. So congrats on a nicely designed, functional network!
Learning with e's
NOVEMBER 28, 2015
Here are five ways we can give our knowledge to generations of learners we will never meet: 1) Blogging. Blogs such as the one you are now reading have been set up to share knowledge, and also to encourage discussion. Tools to look out for: YouTube , Vimeo , SchoolTube , Daily Motion.
Clark Quinn
JANUARY 19, 2011
While implicitly it could support tracking a group’s progress, separate thoughts as recorded through blogs and tweets aren’t a natural feature. Yes, there’s integration with wikis and blogging tools, but it’s not quite the same. They can do for external thought leaders by reading their blog and following their tweets. I’ve riffed before about virtual mentorship , and it resonated again today.
Jay Cross
MAY 2, 2010
They see it as a platform, not a mere blogging tool. Tags: Blogging Community Conference hosts should take a lesson or two from Matt Mullenweg. Today’s Wordcamp San Francisco was simply great. Great line-up of speakers. Glorious weather.
Learning with e's
SEPTEMBER 2, 2011
In a recent blog post, I gave seven reasons why teachers should blog. I followed that post up with another highlighting some of the reasons teachers don't blog. Blogging for me has many clear benefits for professionals. Evernote is a great tool for that purpose.
Vikas Joshi on Interactive Learning
FEBRUARY 20, 2010
We decided to set up an ad-hoc social learning environment mostly using freely available tools. We decided to outline our curriculum in a skeletal form using a blog, and then set social interactions in the curriculum context. Blog is the watering hole A learning blog is so much a happening place! The blog has a personal touch, it is easy to follow, its updates are delivered to participant's RSS reader instantaneously. We used Blogger, the Google blogging tool.
Integrated Learnings
SEPTEMBER 21, 2011
While there, I engaged in a practice I had never before used known as a backchannel, via the well known micro blogging tool Twitter. It is different from a traditional blog in that it is exactly what the title infers – micro. There are a lot of tools that can be used for a backchannel, but one of the most popular is Twitter. Other online tools are available in the marketplace; however, I will refer to using a backchannel in Twitter throughout this post.
Learning with e's
AUGUST 17, 2013
If I were to ask you what are the sharpest tools in your box, what would you say? Here are my 8 essential tools: 1) Twitter, because as I recently said in a YouTube video , it is immediate, social and personal. 4) Blogger, my blogging tool which hosts this blog and several more I run.
Tony Karrer
JUNE 7, 2008
Janet Clarey wrote an interesting blog post in response to the relatively recent edupunk meme which is basically an ideology that DIY learning and repurposing content is the way to go (and somewhat the ONLY way to go). type tools in Learning Management Systems against the philosophy that corporate and commercial is evil of the edupunkers. Do you show them the internal blogging tool only?
eLearning Cyclops
APRIL 2, 2010
This is in reference the immense and rapidly expanding technology tools. It is tough to stay on top of all the emerging tools. For me it is a blog community and following many experts on Twitter. Not only am I often made aware of new tools, but also get opinions, tips, and examples of their use. You can never keep up with it all, but access to many experts who are also finding and sharing the lastest tech tools make it much less daunting.
Web Tools for Learners
JANUARY 4, 2010
I subscribe to and receive in my email Doug Belshaw's blog – [link] – where he describes work he's doing for his Ed.D. I blog on Posterous – [link] – because it's the easiest blog tool I've found, and I subscribe to a number of people whom I find helpful there. I have set it up so I receive a collection of their blog posts in my email too.
E-Learning Acupuncture
JANUARY 22, 2010
I also routinely use it to obtain Creative Commons licenced graphics for use on this blog and in my powerpoint slides. So my Top 4 favourites that are NOT on this Top 100 list are: Blogger : I've been writing this blog, eLearning Acupuncture , using Blogger since 2004.
Performance Learning Productivity
JUNE 19, 2009
The question is usually ‘what can I do to ensure that the CEO or Director views L&D as a strategic business tool and not another also-ran support function’. Yet there is an absolute wealth of tools to help L&D people raise their game by using technology.
Experiencing eLearning
JUNE 19, 2008
Principles for assessing online discussions and other conversations (blogs, chat, etc.) Tool for liveblogging that is actually live–it works like typing an instant message. tags: web2.0 , blog , tools. The Bamboo Project Blog: Using Del.icio.us ZaidLearn: University Learning = OCW + OER = FREE! Huge directory of links to free educational resources–open courseware, open educational resources, and general resources. Mostly higher ed.
Clark Quinn
JUNE 7, 2008
Janet Clarey wrote an interesting blog post in response to the relatively recent edupunk meme which is basically an ideology that DIY learning and repurposing content is the way to go (and somewhat the ONLY way to go). type tools in Learning Management Systems against the philosophy that corporate and commercial is evil of the edupunkers. Do you show them the internal blogging tool only?
Janet Clarey
FEBRUARY 12, 2009
Jane Hart and I collaborated on a new report, 100+ Free E-Learning Tools for Employee Training and Personal Learning , and have just now released it. She is also the author of Jane’s E-Learning Pick of the Day , a blog where she posts a daily item of e-learning interest. For this report, Jane handpicked tools just for employee training and personal learning from her extensive repository. After settling on the right tools, they were categorized. Blogging Tools.
CLO Magazine
SEPTEMBER 28, 2012
” Telus does keep detailed track of its social learning participation — in 2011, for instance, 16,600 of its employees joined its Buzz micro-blogging tool. In 2009, Telus’ wikis and blogs garnered 23,000 pageviews from employees; in 2011, that number grew to 308,676. Make sure that a certain social learning tool has been in place for at least six months, maybe even a year, before measurement.
Corporate eLearning Strategies and Development
OCTOBER 12, 2010
This week is about blogging. I just think its time to take a look at blogging again since I, and others from what I hear, seem to be neglecting blogs, feed readers, etc, in favor of microblogging. Let's start with the basics: What is blogging? But that's not blogging.
Tony Karrer
OCTOBER 2, 2006
Over on LCB , The Big Question for October has been posted: Should All Learning Professionals be Blogging? Corporate eLearning Professionals are Blogging More More corporate eLearning professionals are taking up blogging. A couple recent interesting blogs as examples are: In the Middle of the Curve - Good example post that I cite later: Fear of Blogging. And as you gain experience with blogs, you can start to gain experience with other Personal Learning Tools.
Tony Karrer
JUNE 10, 2007
Tools provide by the enterprise that will sometimes reach outside the enterprise to give public visibility. The enterprise provides tools to employees that they can use as part of the PWLE. I could understand an argument that it would be preferable for individuals to be able to use the same tools outside the corporation for personal interests - but I don't see his argument that it is no longer a PLE or PWLE. In PLEs are power tools Tom tells us.
Learning Visions
MARCH 25, 2008
Tuesday, March 25, 2008 Jott This Blog I havent had so much time lately to blog, as this project Im working on has been quite grueling. I find my best time for thinking up excellent blog entries is late at night when Im lying in bed. Practice safe blogging while driving!
eLearning Weekly
JULY 30, 2008
Many of us techies have been using RSS for years, and you may even run your own blog. Blogs can also be a fantastic way to record your progress on projects, take notes, share findings, etc. What are some of the obstacles we face in using blogs and RSS readers at our organizations? First, blogs and RSS don’t get much respect in the enterprise. Second, users are either hesitant or scared to use new tools like an RSS reader. Also see: Blogs in Plain English.
Clive on Learning
JULY 7, 2007
Jane Hart asked me to come up with a list of my top ten tools. I'm going to include IE7 under this heading, which is probably the tool I use the most after Outlook – the improvements such as tabbed browsing mean that it has caught up with Firefox (sounds like some form of heresy). Blogger: I didn't choose my blogging tool, I just took the easy option and used the one that Google provided. Captivate: This is the other tool I use, for software screen captures.
Tony Karrer
MARCH 3, 2008
Existing Adoption At the very start I asked the audience for examples of where they were currently using these tools as part of learning solutions. There were about 7 examples mentioned including Intuit using a Wiki-like system for customers to ask questions/get advice around taxes, using a group blog with students prior to a formal learning event, the US Army's use of collaboration tools to share best practices in Iraq, and several others. Tools?
Jay Cross
DECEMBER 23, 2008
Once I was a whiz with an excellent drawing tool; now I am a scribbler on six different drawing tools. It pleases me to think of all of the passing information, entertainment, notifications, tweets, blogs, magazines, newspapers, and so on as a never-ending stream. Links take me to my blogs, tools, events, clocks, clubs, and communities. The Search section has a few specialty tools. Feeling lost?
eLearning 24-7
SEPTEMBER 24, 2010
A surprisingly number of vendors who offer some form of social learning, whether it is the minimum – a FB like page, micro-blog, even some form of app sharing or collaborative tool, do not have any social media on their site. Something to think about, when you try to explain to your potential customers why your micro blogging tool is wonderful, but your own company doesn’t even use it or some other micro-blog site. We live in a global marketplace.
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